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by alyse (indecentexposed)
at February 5th, 2008 (11:53 pm)
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earlier today, someone left a comment letting me know that my icons are being posted in an icon theft community. not exactly thrilling news. but i've been thinking about it, & here's my take:

when someone has put time and effort into a creative work, no matter how small, it's rude and disrespectful not to credit them properly. unfortunately, there are always going to be people out there who wouldn't know common courtesy if it kicked them in the head, & who will steal others' work.

sometimes there are consequences-- e.g., if you turned in a term paper without citing sources, you'd fail the class at the very least. in the case of a 100' x 100' icon, on the other hand, it's just something i have to live with. i don't have the time to track down every last person who isn't crediting my icons & yell at them about it-- because, let's be honest? i have a life.

so, i rolled my eyes. i was annoyed for about ten seconds, & then i moved on. i want my icons to be as available as possible, so i'm not going to use this as an excuse to switch to moderated membership. i don't ever plan to do that unless hotlinking becomes a problem, since i work with limited bandwidth.

concerning the aforementioned icon theft community, i've removed & banned all of its maintainers & members with posting access from dreamscaping, but i'm not going to go over there & start anything. i don't believe in feeding the trolls, & as far as i can tell, these communities only exist to start drama with makers, which is so unbelievably lame that i'm not even going to go there.

in conclusion, thank you to those of you who do take the time to credit properly, please let me know if you see this kind of thing so i can remove & ban the responsible parties, & let's continue to keep dreamscaping fun & drama-free for the rest of us. :)

thanks for reading!

love,

alyse + the drama llama, who wanted me to give you these:

1. 2. 3.

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Posted by: kyliemou (kyliemou)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 05:57 am (UTC)

Plain and simple: people (in this case, icon thieves) suck. XD Oh, and let's not forget Osama and Bush too.

Posted by: Kiowa (lonewolf82)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 05:58 am (UTC)
life is messy

Who in the name of holy monkeys would be that stupid? Dios mio...

I say that this goes back to my theory that as a whole, humans are stupid, some more so than others.

Maybe they have IQs of 16, enough to breathe and one more...

I love those icons. Totally grabbing them, and then crediting when I use them.

~Kiowa

Posted by: Caitlin (floha)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 06:10 am (UTC)

I agree that it's really lame and disrespectful, but at the same time I remember something my grandmother told me: "If you don't want to whole world to know, don't write it down." Very similar here, in that your work is published in a public place, so the whole world can see, which of course leaves it open to theft.

In any event I totally respect your decision to put your stuff out there publicly (respect and appreciate, since I benefit). It's not something I could do, because I would be angry for much longer than 10 seconds.

Posted by: jennlynnfs (jennlynnfs)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 06:17 am (UTC)
Text: Wait

So, the people at the comm that will not be named are claiming your icons as theirs? I've heard about this before, but I've never known anyone who this actually happened to. Why do people suck so bad?

Anyway, those icons are funny!

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Posted by: Elle (damnedprecious)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 06:39 am (UTC)
HSM // Sharpay OMG

Bah, what a sucky thing for people to do.

Posted by: silver_x_cross (silver_x_cross)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 09:07 am (UTC)
oh shit!

I love the "Your Drama" one!

I agree with your stance on the whole thing- maybe it's the student in me, banged over the head repeatedly with 'must cite sources', but I try to always remember to credit, even if it's just with a 'maker unknown' label if I genuinely don't know- that way if the maker sees it I can update the information. Plain stealing is just disrespectful I think.

Your icons rock hon!

Posted by: Shannon (shannon_elaine)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 02:25 pm (UTC)
My $.02

I think this is a good attitiude to have about this. I was recently kicked out of an icon community that I'd been a long time member of because not all of my icons have credits. I credit the ones that I know who made them, leave the ones I don't know blank. But that wasn't enough. According to that community mod, I shouldn't use icons I couldn't credit. oy. With some people no matter how you credit it's not enough when instead they should complain about those using their work and claiming it as theirs or not crediting when they know who made the icons.

Posted by: Bex (the_bex)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 03:54 pm (UTC)

Hi, I just joined this community (admittedly for the perusal of the Twilight series icons, but everything else you've been making has been absolutely great! Thanks so much for sharing with us!) but I have to say this --

Having been around LiveJournal for a number of years, it seems to me that 9 out of every 10 icon-makers flip the hell out when people steal their icons. I understand that effort is put into them and I understand that they're your creations, but what I think most of them fail to understand is that it's the internet and there are dishonest (and let's face it, annoyingly immature) people out there. It thrills me to no end that you let this roll off your back like the adult you clearly are. Don't feed the trolls -- controversy and confrontation is what keeps them alive.

Posted by: ni l'un ni l'autre (la_petite_singe)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 04:06 pm (UTC)
Johnny

I seriously do not understand people who steal icons. Is it seriously that hard to type someone's username in there? Yeah, OK, they're just pictures and you didn't make the movie or whatever, but it's a nice thing to do and takes about four extra seconds of your time. And it's very annoying when I see an icon I like, but I can't find more like it because the person hasn't credited. People who refuse to credit just to be defiant are so immature. :P

Posted by: Jen E @ mommablogsalot (bookstorebetty)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 04:52 pm (UTC)

Love the icons - way to make something good out of something bad. :) Snagged the second two in case I ever need them - will credit, obviously.

Posted by: Junkie Murderer (junkie_murderer)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 05:15 pm (UTC)

Who would stoop so low as to steal icons..? It's easy to credit someone, and easier still to just link to the source.

Your icons show dedication and care, and it's sad that someone would just take them from you without so much as a nod. I hope they get gastrointestinal distress(explosive gas!) in public.

Posted by: Queen Mab of Critique (aellwynde)
Posted at: February 6th, 2008 07:16 pm (UTC)
Book of trees purpled-Art by vladstudio

Although I am fairly fanatical about credits- it is a skill and talent *I* definitely don't have- I like your stand point on it. Head and shoulders above the rest, just because you choose not to stoop to their levels.

However, on behalf of all sweet fuzzy llamas, I must stand in protest of icon #1.

;)

Posted by: barnaclebitch (barnaclebitch)
Posted at: February 7th, 2008 01:20 am (UTC)

Just remember, theres still people out there crediting your icons!
:D dont let the bastards get you down!

Posted by: Becca_Ray (ilovedrwilson)
Posted at: February 7th, 2008 05:01 am (UTC)
LLAMA

drama llama?

I've really enjoyed watching this community!

Edited at 2008-02-07 05:02 am (UTC)

Posted by: Margot (midnight_birth)
Posted at: April 3rd, 2008 04:46 am (UTC)
Frustrated

That pisses me off so much. What pisses me off even more is that even though these communities explicitly state in their names and user infos what they do, Livejournal allows them to go on, even though their sole purposes goes against Livejournal copyright rules.

I tried to report them, but they only allow reports by the people whose icons were stolen. Just so you know, if someone you know is in the community and can provide you with a link where your icons are posted (even if the entry itself is friends-locked), along the original page where you posted those icons, the community would be immediately suspended and deleted.

*huge hugs though* Your work is really great! It sucks monkey balls that you had to go through that..

P.S. May I ask who made the icons you posted in the end of this entry?

Posted by: alyse (indecentexposed)
Posted at: April 3rd, 2008 04:53 am (UTC)

i didn't realize i had that option-- thanks for letting me know!

as for the icons, i made them, & you're welcome to use them. :) the drama llama thing was just a joke.

Posted by: ₪ ø l α u r e n Δ α m α n d α lll o (flippant)
Posted at: November 26th, 2008 12:53 am (UTC)
тexт; ಇ draмa llaмaѕ

Drama in the graphics world can be so ridiculous. Snagged the first icon. =)

Posted by: TC (wollfyn)
Posted at: March 18th, 2009 08:27 pm (UTC)
lipstick swak

I'm snagging the third one. I have a friend that it fits to a T. Thanks for sharing your hard work. I will definitely credit.

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